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Wife and I are getting a divorce and she might be unable to refinance in her name

by brettatk from Atlanta, Georgia. Oct 10th 2012 Reply


Travis Torcoletti (travis.torcoletti)
#0 ranked lender in South Carolina - 372 contributions

Not sure what your question is here but if she is being awarded the home in the divorce and you are both on the mortgage now and you want to be off of the mortgage then she would have to refinance the loan in her name alone and qualify on her own merrit. A person can be removed from the deed via a quit-claim deed bu that can't be done with a mortgage. If she is unable to qualify on her own and you want to be off of the obligation then it might be best that the house be sold. Discuss it with her and the attorney.

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William J Acres (William_Acres)
#74 ranked lender in Arizona - 8,728 contributions

If she cannot refinance on her own, then she probably cannot afford the payment on her own either, which is a recipe for disaster regarding your credit.. It's best you just sell the home and move on... but you need to hammer out these details before the divorce is complete rather than after.. I'm a Broker here in Scottsdale AZ and I only lend in Arizona. If you or someone you know is looking for financing options, feel free to contact me or pass along my information. 480-287-5714 WilliamAcres.com

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Barb Lanis (BarbLanis)
#69 ranked lender in Illinois - 679 contributions

You can do a HARP refinance and take your name off the mortgage. Fannie and Freddie allow this. Perhaps the bank you were speaking with doesn't do HARP loans or has limits on the LTV. Find a local broker, not a bank.

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Bert Carpenter (BertCarpenter)
#37 ranked lender in Arizona - 2,431 contributions

The best advice I can give you is DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT allow your name to be taken off the title to the property without the underlying mortgage being paid off. The worst thing you can do is still owe on a debt that is secured by an asset you can't control. Why? Let's say you take you name off title but stay on the loan. She stops making the payments. You decide that the best way to pay off the loan is to sell the home. You can't, because you can't sell what you don't own. If she can qualify for a nw loan in her own name, make the refinancing of the loan to remove you from the loan a condition of the divorce. It's the best way to protect yourself. Good luck. ~ Bert Carpenter, The LoansA2z team of NOVA Home Loans ~ NMLS 40586 ~ Licensed in California and Arizona ~ www.LoansA2z.com 888-889-9950

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Phil Dumouchel (PhilDu)
#32 ranked lender in South Carolina - 2,249 contributions

The borrower normally has to qualify for the new mortgage based on credit, verified income and assets, etc. There are some refinance options where that is not required but rarely when one of the current borrowers will not be on the new mortgage.

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I guess the question was, what are our options. After talking to a Bank Finance Officer about our loan, I do not believe an appraisal would come back high enough for her to qualify on her own. The BFO suggested that we refi together with HARP to get her name on the loan and lower the existing rate. That will make it easier for her refi later on. Plus the Divorce decree will exclude this mortgage from my DTI when I'm ready to purchase a new house. Unfortunately selling might not be the best option right now since we are underwater. We both agree that the primary goal is to get me off the mortage ASAP, but that might just take a while. At least her name will be on the loan once the HARP is done so she will have responsibility towards the loan. I will of course be speaking to a lawyer before making any final decision on the matter. Thank you for your advice. I'd still welcome further advice or would love to hear from anyone in this type of situation.

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Again, I appreciate all the advice. She actually can afford the payment on her own and have plenty of money left over. She would not have a problem getting a refinance if our house was not underwater. It has nothing to do with her salary or credit rating.

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Michelle Curtis Loan Originator NMLS 401173 (MichelleCurtisLO)
#77 ranked lender in Florida - 2,245 contributions

Not sure what your question is but if she can't qualify with her debt to income ratio by herself and you are currently on the mortgage they will not take you off.

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In order for her to refinance with HARP by herself and take me off the loan, she would have had to be on our current loan. Since she is not, HARP is not an option.

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Peter Botros (PeterBotros)
#70 ranked lender in New York - 895 contributions

What is the question?

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The question I thought was pretty clear, to find out our options in case we are missing an alternative. They should really allow you to delete a posting on this site.

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Barb Lanis (BarbLanis)
#69 ranked lender in Illinois - 679 contributions

Okay, now it's clear. If you add your soon to be ex-wife on a new HARP refi, the underwater issue will rear its ugly head again when she tries to refi you off the mortgage. Unless you are in an area where property values are rapidly increasing, you could be even more "stuck" with the property AND responsible for the mortgage. Also, at this point HARP can only be done once. It also doesn't matter what your divorce decree says, if your on the mortgage, it's your responsibility from the lenders perspective. If you decide to short sell the property, keep in mind that divorce is an acceptable "hardship" that the banks typically accept and you don't have to prove that you can't afford the home as in other short sale situations. You'll take a big hit on your credit score, but you will be finished with the property and can rebuild your credit.

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Derick Condron (rightstartoregon)
#30 ranked lender in Oregon - 598 contributions

I am guessing you are wondering your options. You dont have many if it is a divorce then she will need to refinance the property to remove you from the obligation.

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Linda Burek (lburek)
#138 ranked lender in Florida - 25 contributions

Are you deeding the house to her? If so, she will need to qualify on her own, however FHA allows for a non-occupant co-borrorwer. If she knows of someone willing to do this she may be able to get a mortgage. She doesn't want to get in over head and take out a mortgage that she can't afford. I only loan in Florida so she is best to find someone in your area. Best of luck. First Choice Mortgage, Linda Burek, NMLS #310096.

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