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Is there no longer a way to remove FHA PMI from a 30-year FRM?

by JKerkoff from Westchester, New York. Apr 8th 2013 Reply


Peter Botros (PeterBotros)
#70 ranked lender in New York - 895 contributions

Both of the answers here are incorrect. The rule that will effect your ability to remove PMI is not yet in play. the only change as of 4/1 was a slight increase in the MIP Factor used to calculate your monthly Mortgage Insurance. The other changes will come into play early June. I am a Direct Lender here in NY. Call me, Peter Botros, 347 231 4444 or if you prefer, you can email me PBotros@OmegaLoans.net

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Charlie Sparks (CharlieSparks)
#8 ranked lender in New Mexico - 401 contributions

The rule change you are referring to is for new FHA loans originated on case numbers dated 4/1/13 and after. If your loan was originated before this date you aren't affected by this rule change.

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Michelle Curtis Loan Originator NMLS 401173 (MichelleCurtisLO)
#77 ranked lender in Florida - 2,245 contributions

Not from 4/1 on. Anything before old rules apply.

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James Mazzola (Mazzola)
#109 ranked lender in New Jersey - 314 contributions

If your loan was originated before this date you aren't affected by this rule change.

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Jenny Baker (mortgagemom)
#71 ranked lender in Georgia - 26 contributions

The change that will make PMI loan long will not happen until loans orginated in early June.

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Carlo Sanchez (MortgageLendingPro)
#0 ranked lender in Utah - 1,163 contributions

Sure it can be removed if you already have an FHA loan. If not, and are getting a new FHA loan, then Nope!! And it only gets WORSE on June 3rd. Make sure to Write your Congress people on it!!

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Charlie Sparks (CharlieSparks)
#8 ranked lender in New Mexico - 401 contributions

I stand corrected. Peter is right.

Apr 8th 2013
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Phil Dumouchel (PhilDu)
#32 ranked lender in South Carolina - 2,249 contributions

If you currently have a 30 year FHA mortgage, the monthly insurance can/will normally be removed after you pay it for 5 years and have reached 78% of the original purchase price (or appraisal if lower). The details are slightly different if you put a larger downpayment or it was a 15 year mortgage. New FHA loans after of June 1 will require the insurance for the life of the loan

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Dave Metsker (DaveMetsker)
#35 ranked lender in Oregon - 2,318 contributions

No change for FHA loans in effect as of 4/1/13.

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Carlos Figueira (carlosfigueira)
#107 ranked lender in New Jersey - 199 contributions

You can always refinance out of your FHA if you have equity. All previous postings are correct, if you are getting a new FHA loan with case number pulled on 6/1 or after there will be MIP for life of the loan unless you refinance out of the FHA loan. Purchase or Refinance A.S.A.P. before that change goes into effect

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Kiernan Brown (KiernanBrown)
#49 ranked lender in Michigan - 149 contributions

FHA PMI is normally removed from a FHA Loan originated prior to 04/01/2013 after its 5 year mandatory period and/or when the principle balance has been paid down below 78% of the homes original appraised value. However, a number of lenders have claimed declining markets/unfavorable market conditions, and left the PMI on a number of loans. This has left the removal of the PMI up to the borrower refinancing or paying legal fees to remove it. Most have refinanced.

Apr 8th 2013
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Peter Savino (855411LEND)
#99 ranked lender in New Jersey - 332 contributions

not from 4-1-2012

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Barb Lanis (BarbLanis)
#69 ranked lender in Illinois - 679 contributions

Peter has this info correct.

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Larry Lechel (Larry@GenevaFi.com)
#15 ranked lender in Indiana - 38 contributions

Permanent PMI goes into effect on all case numbers pulled on or after 6-3-13. Those with existing fha loans can petition that it be removed as long as they are at 78% loan to value and have had the PMI in place for 5 years.

Apr 9th 2013
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Joe Metzler (JoeMetzler)
#17 ranked lender in Minnesota - 4,848 contributions

For NEW FHA LOANS originated after JUNE 2013... FHA Mortgage insurance will be for the life of the loan. In MN or WI, visit www.FHA-Streamline-Refinance-MN.com

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