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HARP 2 LTV Penalty?

My combined LTV (1st and 2nd mortgage) is 1.41. However, my LTV on my 1st mortgage is only 0.75. My bank is telling me that, since my LTV is less than 0.80, I need to pay a penalty of 1.75% of what I am borrowing. Is this true? I can't believe I would be penalized for borrowing too little. Help! by u2637_270_993 from Harper Woods, Michigan. Jan 10th 2013 Reply


William J Acres (William_Acres)
#74 ranked lender in Arizona - 8,728 contributions

It's possible just because of how HARP works, but both Freddie and Fannie have Maximum Adjustments.. For Owner Occupied 30 year fixed, it's a .75 adjustment... you lender could be using this as a tool to get you to agree to a higher rate.. You could also be using a bank, where the loan officers/application takers are not experienced in pricing... they are trained in taking an application and everything else is passed off to processors and underwriters.. The best advice I can give you is to contact a LOCAL mortgage broker and apply with them. Do not use the local "Big" bank, or one of those 50 states internet lenders or nationwide lenders...By applying with your LOCAL Broker, you have an advantage because he's familiar with local customs and works with numerous lenders, seeking out the best loan terms for your particular scenario. Because he has lower overhead, he can offer you lower rates and lower fees than most of the larger lenders.. I'm a Broker here in Scottsdale AZ and I only lend in Arizona. If you or someone you know is looking for financing options, feel free to contact me or pass along my information. 480-287-5714 WilliamAcres.com

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Joe Metzler (JoeMetzler)
#17 ranked lender in Minnesota - 4,848 contributions

Something is amiss... Maybe they are just explaining something wrong. Bank loan officers are unlicensed application clerks. Talk to another LICENSED local Loan Officer. HARP loans are based on the combined loan-to-value. So just because the first mortgage is under 80%, the total of 141% is what qualifies it for HARP.

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Shon Atabaki (ShonAtabaki)
#48 ranked lender in Washington - 95 contributions

Actually...unfortunately they are right. The negative pricing adjustments CAP under HARP 2.0 are exclusively for situations where your LTV is over 80%. If you are not over 80%, then you do not receive the same CAPS on the negative pricing adjustments. They should be able to incorporate that adjustment in your rate instead of charging you though, and just increase the rate.

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Jack Cyrul (Jack Cyrul)
#4 ranked lender in Michigan - 94 contributions

Give me a call and I'll quote you the correct current market rate. It sounds like your looking at a harp loan and I have many very good lenders for this. Jack C 734-395-9027

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Michelle Curtis Loan Originator NMLS 401173 (MichelleCurtisLO)
#77 ranked lender in Florida - 2,245 contributions

Doesn't sound right, I would call a non bank mortgage pro in your area and discuss it with him/her.

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Gus Dahlgren (gdahlg_811_422)
#32 ranked lender in Michigan - 48 contributions

I'm a licensed Loan Consultant in East Lansing MI with Union National Mortgage. We offer the HARP 2.0 Refinance so give and I'll price it out for you.ThanksGus DahlgrenNMLS # 80625517-489-2440

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Jeremy Redlinger (JeremyR)
#29 ranked lender in Minnesota - 191 contributions

HARP guidelines do require for your LTV 80 percent or greater. I do not know of any penalty involved for loans with a lower LTV. Your loan officer may be able to play with the number a little bit to get your LTV to 80 percent so you may qualify.

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