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Broker made us sign loan app before giving us GFE/TIN

My wife and I are doing a HARP2 refi and a local broker had us sign a loan app on our first visit with him and said he'd get the GFE to us later. I didn't want to sign anything on the first visit, but he said I had to sign them because they give him permission to "do what he's already done" : run our credit and check with a lender. He said it neither commits or obligates us to anything whatsoever.Is this a normal procedure? We're still shopping around and hope that signing a load app didn't hurt us in any way. Thanks for your help by lawren_968_511 from Vallejo, California. Aug 3rd 2012 Reply


Michelle Curtis Loan Originator NMLS 401173 (MichelleCurtisLO)
#77 ranked lender in Florida - 2,245 contributions

You are not obligated to do anything with that broker.

Aug 3rd 2012
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William J Acres (William_Acres)
#74 ranked lender in Arizona - 8,728 contributions

Just because you signed an application does not obligate you to use that lender.. And your lender does not have to give you a GFE / TIL unless you sign something.. But really what you need to compare is the "Initial fee's worksheet".. That will have a breakdown of all the fees and costs associated with your refinance.. And it gives you what you need to shop and compare.. However your lender might have been hesitant to even produce that for you if he had not seen your credit.... His time is just as valuable as yours, so the fact that he had you sign an application allowing him to run your credit should not be a concern. If in your shopping you let multiple lenders run your credit, it could drive down your score.. so be careful.. I'm a Broker here in Scottsdale AZ and I only lend in Arizona. If you or someone you know is looking for financing options, feel free to contact me or pass along my information. 480-287-5714 WilliamAcres.com

Aug 3rd 2012
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Bert Carpenter (BertCarpenter)
#37 ranked lender in Arizona - 2,431 contributions

Although it is understandable that you may not want to sign an application, but to be fair, giving the loan officer enough information to pull a credit report and an address to confirm a subject property means you applied. It is not uncommon for you to not receive a GFE and TIL at that first meeting, provided it is issued to you within the 3 days required by law. He is also correct that under California law, you are not obligate to continue using him. Most professional Loan Originators will ask for a signed application. And you, as a good consumer SHOULD shop for the best deal for you. One of the things I recommend all consumers to do is to check out their chosen Mortgage Originator at the National Mortgage Licensing System at www.NMLSConsumerAccess.org Check the employment history to see how long they have been originating mortgages. You want to make sure the one you use isn't a newbie. ~ Bert Carpenter, The LoansA2z team of NOVA Home Loans ~ NMLS 40586 ~ www.LoansA2z.com ~ 888-889-9950

Aug 4th 2012
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Crestico Funding (CresticoFunding)
#316 ranked lender in California - 340 contributions

Hi Lawren,Signing a loan application is not mandatory, however the broker can ask for either a Verbal or Written Authorization from you to run your credit and discuss your loan situation with a lender. you do not have to use that broker if you do not feel comfortable, you can always send them a written notice that you like to withdrawal your loan application. Fore a hassle free consolation please feel free to call us at 310 348 7878 and talk to one our available mortgage loan originators.

Aug 6th 2012
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typo, meant TIL in subject line..

Aug 3rd 2012
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Travis Torcoletti (travis.torcoletti)
#0 ranked lender in South Carolina - 372 contributions

You are in no way obligated to use that broker just by signing an app. you can use whomever you wish to use to process your mortgage loan. I know that when someone completes an online app for me there is a box to check that allows me to pull their credit so I'm sure that was a big reason why he wanted you to sign.

Aug 3rd 2012
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Derick Condron (rightstartoregon)
#30 ranked lender in Oregon - 598 contributions

You are not obligated to use that broker. Most of the time the broker will need some kind of written proof that he has your autherization to pull the credit report. Some lenders have a seperate from and others use the loan application.

Aug 3rd 2012
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Thanks to all who replied - you've been very helpful.I forgot to mention that we originally signed a credit check authorization and a loan app with the broker, so I thought signing two documents might not have been necessary. I'm not worried about the loan app any longer thanks to your answers. ;o)FYI: The broker still hasn't sent a GFE, but sent a 'Fees Worksheet' instead. The document actually says 'This is Not a Good Faith Estimate (GFE).' No TIL either

Aug 14th 2012
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Another thing I didn't mention on my original post is that the broker has our tax documents (from the last two years), bank statements, pay stubs, employment history, etc. What else would he need to issue a GFE/TIL?Thanks again

Aug 14th 2012
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