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Cash reserve requirement when buying a 2nd home + Gift money questions

Looking for some experts answers since I'm hearing all different things:Our situation:We put on an offer on a 2nd home to become our primary residence. Since we are a little upside down with the existing one, we plan on renting it out.We originally planned on putting 10% down (5% own money and 5% gift) but lender were unanimous that we needed 6months PITI for each house in cash reserve (that we dont have).Then one lender told me that 2months PITI is fine if we put 20% down (what we plan on doing now) but an other tells me that I will still need 6months PITI.Loan is conventional , credit score 740+, DTI ~43% (with both houses).And my second question is about gift money.The 20% down+ closing cost money will come from my dad living overseas (Switzerland so not a country "at risk" :) ).Does his money need to be seasoned? (again, asking that because I hear different thing. The guy at Quicken Loans for ex told me it need to be seasoned for 2months in his account but the money will come from part of his paychecks that he gets every months) And also when during the loan process does the money need to be transferred?Thanks for your help! by gabhuf_282_927 from Pensacola, Florida. Aug 21st 2012 Reply


Bert Carpenter (BertCarpenter)
#37 ranked lender in Arizona - 2,431 contributions

They guy at QM told you two month's seasoning because once it is seasoned, it is no longer treated like a gift. Gift funds from overseas, regardless of the country, has become harder to document because many times the documentation is not in English. Even if the documentation is translated into English, most underwriters still don't want to deal with it. Regarding the reserves, if you are upside down in the home you are vacating virtually all lenders have overlays that will required 6 months of reserves for both payments, regardless of the down on the new property. In order to be gifted, the funds must be readily available and not from borrowed funds. If your gift giver is waiting for paydays to provide the gift, that is just going to compound the documentation problem. My biggest concern for what you are trying to do is that you apparently have limited reserves to fall back on if something hic-ups. You are becoming a new landlord and until you find a tenant, will be carrying the full load of all of the payments. That is a lot. In fact for many, it is a recipe for disaster. This is why lenders want the reserves. Most lenders will require the gift to have been made before the transaction is sent to underwriting because the underwriter wants to see bank records proving the gift and that takes time to get from the banks. ~ Bert Carpenter, The LoansA2z team of NOVA Home Loans ~ NMLS 40586 ~ www.LoansA2z.com 888-889-9950

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Thanks a lot for your quick replies!By putting 20% down in gift money (dont need to put 5% on my own that way from what lenders told me) I will have sufficient cash reserve to cover the 2x6months PTI if needed (70% of vested 401k can be included in the cash reserve calculation correct?)

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