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800 Credit Rating - and can't buy a condo in Las Vegas?

I'm 64 - retired with SS disability and have lived in Las Vegas for 34 years. I want to buy a condo for about $70,000. I've been pre-approved for FHA by BOA and have been pre-approved for a Fannie Mae loan by Nova.There are no HUD approved condo communities in Las Vegas - so that eliminates FHA loans. Fannie Mae listings are slim pickings and result in a bidding stampede.It's so frustrating because there are many beautiful condos on the market that I would love to buy. My SS income qualifies for the loan so I'm bringing my own gov-backed payment plan to the table. There's no employment and all the scenarios that affect that ability to pay for a lender to consider. My only drawback is that I can only put 5% down. Could I get a conventional loan? by reinfo_736_290 from Las Vegas, Nevada. Nov 20th 2011 Reply


Brian Allen (ballen)
#43 ranked lender in Maryland - 193 contributions

If the cond's are not on warrantable by FHA likely they are not on Fannie or Freddie list so doing conventional would require a larger down payment than 5%. Are there any retirement communities you could look into or a single family?

Nov 20th 2011
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Leanne Larson (LenderLeanne)
#14 ranked lender in Nevada - 20 contributions

Unfortunately, this is a common problem. We have many well qualified borrowers, but the collateral (property) is not qualified. There is a solution. Your Lender can ask to get the Condo approved by FHA. It's a lengthy process, but it can be done. Another alternative would be to consult your Realtor and see if there is a Townhome community that would meet your needs. You might even consider a Single Family Home. The payments can be lower than a Condo because the of the HOA Fees (Homeowners Assoc.).

Nov 20th 2011
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Kelly Fontes (kellyfontes)
#8 ranked lender in Nevada - 11 contributions

Simply, no you can not get a conventional loan with 5% down in that price range. You have 2 options.... 1. Buy a single family residence 2. Wait for non-warrantable condo financing to come back.

Nov 20th 2011
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Thanks for the responses, but I don't believe they are accurate. Ballen: Fannie and Freddie have nothing to with the FHA. They are regulated by the Federal Housing Finance Agency. The FHA and it's loans are regulated by HUD. Fannie has their own loans for their properties - Freddie doesn't. Leanne: Collateral (property) is not qualified? I'm looking at $70K condos that sold for $225K in 2006. Why wouldn't they qualify for a conventional loan? If you look into HUD's condo community regulations for FHA loans - you'll see that applying is an exercise in futility. But it would be ludicrous for a buyer to spend months (years?) initiating this process only to end up in another bidding war if successful. Yes, I can get a FHA on a townhouse or home - but I want a condo. BTW - HOA fees on townhouses are comparable to condos and quite higher in many properties.

Nov 20th 2011
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Aundrea Beach-Greco (aundreabeachgreco)
#6 ranked lender in Nevada - 36 contributions

Have you tried seeing if your loan officer can get you pre-approved under HomePath? You'd be able to do as little as 3% down if you'd like and there are no bidding wars. Owner occupied purchasers get priority. www.HomePath.com is where you and your realtor can view Fannie Mae inventory. There are plenty of great townhomes and single family homes in your price range. LMK if I can help. 702-326-7866 Aundrea

Nov 20th 2011
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Thanks abgreco - Yes, as I wrote in my question - I joined HomePath and get their listings daily. No bidding wars? Since HomePath is the only way to finance a condo, the competition is fierce. I'm going to try for a conventional loan because my ability to pay is unique. My loan payments are backed by another gov agency - Social Security. There is no employment with all it's volatility for a lender to consider.

Nov 20th 2011
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lbennett - thanks for your response. I've looked at 100's of townhouse listings as a last resort and have a pre-approved FHA ready to go. I see you're in Texas - fair to say that the Las Vegas market may be quite different? Regarding the condos I'm looking at - you had to "get in line" to buy them for $$220K in 2006 when they were built. And they are gorgeous. All buyers during that time are now walking on the ceiling. When the banks list them for $55-$70K - they are under contract and sold (cash-investors) within hours. The HOA fees for townhouses here vary - some of the developments have a lot of bells and whistles like condos - gated, security, pools, ect, but there are less units per acre to pay for them. Some are more than condos - most are less. Another factor comes into play that is moving me toward a townhouse. This damn HUD condo lending rule is turning beautiful condo developments into apartment complexes - meaning a higher probability of neighbor trouble and future degradation of the community. My biggest problem has been that townhouses in my price range are in areas I won't live in. It's a mess!

Nov 21st 2011
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lbennet - Thanks for the advice and interesting story. I'll lookup that condo scam. I've started to look at townhouses. Fannie Mae is the only condo game as they have their own loans. But the HUD condo rules for FHA loans will turn these condo communities into apt. complexes. That presents other issues to consider that effect living there. I'm not sure about how much lower prices will go here. Anything decent is gone as soon as it's listed. My biggest concern about waiting is interest rates - as big trouble is coming SOON. Got $50K? The bank will pay about $40/mo interest. A condo pays $900/mo. That's what's going on here. Looks like Vegas inventory will cleanup fast.

Nov 22nd 2011
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A condo project does not need to be on Fannie Maes approved list to get a conventional loan on it. Your lrnder can get a spot approval as long as the complex meets the requirements (owner occupied percentage, nunber of units delinquent on HOA fees etc.) It is not hard to get a spot approval and usually only requires a HOA cert. We do it all the time on condo loans here in the Phoenix area.

Apr 15th 2012
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Scott Smith (scottwsmith2000@yahoo.com)
#45 ranked lender in Nevada - 1 contribution

I may have a solution for you. There is an awesome program available that could solve all your problems. It is called HomePath. HomePath are Fannie Mae foreclosures and you can purchase them with as little as 5% down. There is no Mortgage Ins. on these and no appraisal required. You must have a 660 min. FICO score. This is a conventional loan but the real nice feature to this is, the HomePath program has a "First Look" feature that allows home buyers that are going to live in the property, a chance to purchase the property before investors. This helps eliminate the investor swooping in with cash. Call me, I think I can help. 702-749-4308 (Scott)

Jun 19th 2014
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Nathan Kessler (nathan.kessler@guaranteedrate.com)
#44 ranked lender in Nevada - 81 contributions

You can do it 5% down as long as the complex fills out my investors recertification form, and the complex is approvable (e.g....doesn't have excessive liens or judgments on the property, has the correct occupancy, etc.)Call me, and we can talk about it. Nathan 702-522-6745 City First Mortgage Services

Jul 21st 2014
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